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Believe there's -- i'm trying to remember when the paula jones case started. i think it started when after president -- after bill clinton took the oath of office. the interesting thing is that trump doesn't gain anything from doing this undergoing this trial while he's president. in 1997, the supreme court in the case involving president clinton ruled that presidents, even sitting presidents, have to participate in civil cases involving possible infractions that occurred before they became president. so it's very strange that his lawyers decided this. he's not going to benefit much from it ha...

>> thanks, brian. >> it was a segment on your show "the lead" that got me thinking why we don't hear about bowe bergdahl more often. what do you think are the main reasons this p.o.w. doesn't gain more attention in the national media? >> it's a complicated story to begin with. probably the main reason that stories of americans being held captive either by foreign nations or groups like the taliban, the main reason is because generally speaking the u.s. government and the families often request that the media not cover it because the more you cover it, the more power you are theoretically givin...

Gain, the country doesn't gain. the american people really want to us turn the page and now maybe try working together. on the new york signs, it showed a teenager holding up a sign that said stop arguing. i think that's the message from the american people and that's the message we need. and for republicans to stop arguing with one another. there is a lot of blame that can go around. we have to pledge together and as a unified republican party to do better and make progress on the some of the big issues. >> if i can say, the american taxpayers will win if the shutdown continues. there's a lot...

This crisis. certainly republicans don't gain, the country doesn't gain. the american people really want to us turn the page and now maybe try working together. on the new york signs, it showed a teenager holding up a sign that said stop arguing. i think that's the message from the american people and that's the message we need. and for republicans to stop arguing with one another. there is a lot of blame that can go around. we have to pledge together and as a unified republican party to do better and make progress on the some of the big issues. >> if i can say, the american taxpayers will win...

>> final point here. another divisive issue. that is a potential part of the republican agenda this year. and that is tax reform. are you for tax reform, or might you even support some in the republican caucus and others who are calling to -- for abolishment, to get rid of the internal revenue service? >> what i would like to see is the same kind of premise that ronald reagan and tip o'neill, a republican and a democrat, had back in the '80s. and the premise was this -- we're going to do tax reform, but it will be revenue neutral to the government. in other words, the government doesn't gain r...