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We did it. i was the author of welfare reform. welfare reform which ended the federal entitlement, cut the program and gave it back to the states like we need to do with medicaid and food stamps and a whole host of other programs that are already run by the states and have no business according to, remember that document, yeah, it's the u.s. constitution. that's it. right? we need to get those programs back to the states. we need to save the federal government money and more importantly, welfare didn't just save money, didn't just cut the rolls, but it saved lives. it put people back to work. ...

Much better if -- and if the federal government would give us more flexibility. >> now, governors like haley barbour who you just heard there argue that the current medicaid system just doesn't give states enough freedom to find their own cost savings. on top of that the congressional budget office estimates it could save the federal government $180 billion over the next 10 years, suzanne. >> i guess the critics are coming out pretty strongly against the idea. what are the risks here? >> if you ask opponents they'll say it shifts too much burdens to the states and with the block grants, if the...

Two years and a couple of days after you first got the news that you had been fleeced of money that you had invested with him for years. how do you feel today? >> good afternoon. we're gratified that the trustee had the settlement, suing up to $80 billion, but what doesn't give -- what the press does not cover is the fact that there are hundreds of innocent parties who are old, impoverished, can't afford lawyers who are terrified currently getting sued by the trustee, and this is not fair. the fact of the matter is that the trustee has now recovered or will shortly about $9 billion from variou...

Argument. >> back to the bmi. how does it lower costs then. you're talking how much it costs the country, obesity. how does it help us. >> the reality is more than 70% of us do not fully recognize the degree of our own obesity. so this helps bring that information and put it in front of you and say, look, you're in a danger zone. >> sorry to interrupt you recognize this as much as health professionals in the country, bmi is wildly inaccurate. >> only if you're a body builder-- >> hang on. >> all we're doing is guessing, height and weight and factoring in bmi. doesn't give awe accurate bmi. we'...

Don't you agree? >> if you're going to take that position and -- >> larry: got to be right. >> a lawyer, talk on your client assume that there's no dna. >> larry: does dna come into in, robin? >> absolutely and dna of any sort. so anything that suggests that the dna is there a suffers on corroboration. she's saying that it's consensual and they'll obviously believe that she's underage which would be a strict liability so the only route that he can go is i didn't do it. >> larry: is the odo ods are, plea bargaining? >> well, he's only facing that the point a maximum of four years, so that doesn...