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On leading the narrative. we cannot have the security crisis going out of hand in nigeria. all right, but let me tell you what robert rotberg, president of the world peace foundation in the us, and john campbell, a former american ambassador to nigeria, they say, "the government is unable to keep its citizens safe and secure. nigeria has become a fully failed state of critical geographical concern." they're not mincing their words, are they? they're right. they are wrong — we are not a failed state, zeinab. there is a government at the centre, there are governments in each of our 36 states, ...

Quadruple. so, actually, his economic vision is not being delivered, is it? well, zeinab, that is not true. the president came into power in 2015 and immediately, a couple of months after, we had a crash in the crude oil price. there was a time that the crude oil price went to as low as $28 per barrel. and this was following an administration that had put up a revenue that was from up to $100 per barrel, averaging about $70 per barrel. so mr president faced his first recession within the first year of his first term. again, we now have a second recession in the second year of his term, this ti...

That, in the north—east, boko haram have been behind a lot of these kidnappings. can you confirm whether the boko haram leader, abubakar shekau, is indeed dead? because there are reliable reports that say he is indeed no longer alive. can you confirm that? no, zeinab, i will not want to do that, but i can tell you that i've seen very reliable security reports that said shekau is dead. you've also had a bit of a political crisis. we've discussed the health, the social and the economic crisis, but when we saw what happened in october last year, when we saw young people protesting against polic...

We've seen unemployment quadruple. so, actually, his economic vision is not being delivered, is it? well, zeinab, that is not true. the president came into power in 2015 and immediately, a couple of months after, we had a crash in the crude oil price. there was a time that the crude oil price went to as low as $28 per barrel. and this was following an administration that had put up a revenue that was from up to $100 per barrel, averaging about $70 per barrel. so mr president faced his first recession within the first year of his first term. again, we now have a second recession in the second y...

That doesn't make us a failed state. which country in the world today is not having... ..in africa today is not having a security crisis? we have a security crisis, but this is a government that has come to a grip and has a strong hold on the security situation. yet this is another example of president buhari over—promising and under—delivering. he said in 2015 that boko haram had been technically defeated. and now look what's going on. you've still got all the kidnappings and the ransoms and the killings going on in the north—east, because of boko haram. zeinab, boko haram is in the nor...