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>> so the argument that your state doesn't have standing to even be bringing this to court. what do you say? >> yeah, and that was central to their argument before judge robart. i think your previous guest hit the nail on the head. we make it very clear that we're bringing this case on behalf of numerous residents of our state who are adversely impacted by this executive order, and also now, 97 businesses from microsoft to google, and many others filed supporting affidavits, talking about the adverse impact, the significant adverse impacts, anderson, on their businesses, resulting from this ex...

They should have gone into court and said please give us an expedited schedule for briefing, so we can argue on the merits, we can show that the state doesn't have standing, that a family in yemen that has a visa may have no right to get a visa. it was a real blunder the ask the ninth circuit judges to get a briefing that they could never get. i think we're going to see a divided decision, we're going to see a decision that some of the executive order is constitutional, even if it's bad policy, but some of the executive order is unconstitutional. i was upset today when vice president pence on ...

Washington does not have standing on behalf of its citizens or other visa holders or other americans that they have jurisdiction to sue. the speculative effect of this order doesn't rise to that legal level of having a concrete interest in the outcome, and that is standing, the idea behind standing is that you can't just have a theoretical interest and just open the courthouse doors and start suing people. the state of washington has a real very concrete interest, because these citizens, these people are immediately affected by this executive order and they're immediately harmed and the state ...

I mean, does the administration get to the point where this thing requires the individual mandate to be rolled back? >> well, this is part of the problem. you talk to people on capitol hill, what could republicans do to actually challenge the president? they're very limited. they could file lawsuits. there's questions of who has standing and who doesn't have standing. i think the biggest argument republicans and conservatives can make is a rhetorical one. you can make the case that the president is acting in a lawless manner. it's clear to pretty much everybody and forced democrat said, partic...

Not give equal status, or equal protection, to gay couples seeking the same kinds of benefits as straight couples right across the country. and then, not only that, but the proposition 8 ban in california on same-sex marriage, also struck down by the supreme court. essentially saying, you shouldn't have brought it here in the first place, because the complainant really doesn't have standing here. so it can be the law of the land in california, as well. and the president, who has been en route to africa for a significant trip has already been responding to this. i want to jump in with our jessi...