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Companies such as fox have had these troubles they have gone sometimes stoon outside legal firm to investigate. nbc is doing something different and linda vester and her attorney were saying that is not good enough. >> that is often what companies will try to do is bring in an outside person who doesn't have ties to the company to do their own investigation. nbc's investigation into what happened will be really harshly looked at i think because of how long the stuff going on and all these questions about tom brokaw. i know there are a lot of people looking into other stories so this is clearly...

In russia that doesn't have ties to vladimir putin, please. >> i've not done business with any others -- >> so you have done business with him? >> excuse me? >> so you did do business with him? >> i have not done any business with any russian hedge fund managers, no. >> let me ask you this. given the information that leaked out about this, some of it was right because it said you worked with this person. also it was part of -- between president-elect trump and moscow. did that conversation come up between you and this hedge fund manager? >> not at all. for all the fantasy of the trump/russia c...

I think the media has been imprecise and quick to grab at straws in trying to figure out what the exact fact pattern around that is. >> i agree with you. >> bob mueller won't make that mistake. >> bob mueller is going to be digging this up. there's a fundamental reason that president trump defers on a regular basis to vladimir putin and we're going to soon find that out i hope. >> all right then. extraordinary. all right, we're going to take a break. what a good conversation. coming up, the president has so many tough words for north korea as he speaks just across the border during his asia to...

Opinion writer for "the washington post," and a new york times reporter and she's also an msnbc contributor and msnbc's katie tur. you were there in south carolina when he first announced the ban, a lot of territory has been traversed since. there will be an argument, a hearing and an argument in the fall. but he is going to for the first time now going to be able to implement the ban partly from those six muslim companies. >> anybody that doesn't have ties to a family member or an employer in this country are going to be denied visas. donald trump is able for the first time to now say that he...

Continues to insist he has no relationship with russia. i want to play for everybody what he told me specifically in november of 2013. >> do you have a relationship with vladimir putin, a conversational relationship or anything you feel you have sway or influence over his government? >> do i have a relationship. and i can tell you that he's very interested in what we're doing here today. he's probably very interested in what you and i are saying today, and i'm sure he'll be seeing it in some form. but i do have a relationship with him. >> sir r you confident trump doesn't have ties to russia t...