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>> harris: none of the issues that david brought up -- >> kennedy: there are things about her. one is that she's harder to turn away from. joe biden, has a lot of gaps. maybe he's too old. elizabeth warren, "the dna test and the awkward beer drinking. it's not going to work." and with beto, "he just babbled on about nothing and doesn't have a vision." kamala harris is the only one so far they keep turning back to. she has a horrible record on criminal justice in the state of california, she let people who are clearly innocent lindgren president. many of them are still there she fought against ...

Bush secretary ari fleischer, who on election day tweeted about being amazed about african-american turnout in ohio. so i guess is it acknowledging black people like to start? >> i think you might have recognized that at some point. he's been in politics a little bit. the biggest problem in reading about this, we went through something similar in 2005 when howard dean became chairman. the difference was he made the point of talking to the state party chairs to find out what would it take to win in their state, and he talked to rank and file democrats. we also did a poll to try to understand wa...