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It is the stuff of oversight. if you don't like the president mentioning joe biden in the context of rampant corruption including, and one of the things that became clear today was corruption in the ukraine is not only serious and endemic, it's endemic in the energy industry, and that's burisma so it's quite understandable that in that context, this sort of issue would pop up. this is so far removed from bribery, from extortion and the like that to me it is quite unreasonable -- and that's putting it mildly -- for the democrats to say we have evidence here of a crime, and certainly the two wit...

Throughout the hearing took slugs. >> was he on the treadmill? the water bottle. did you see that? i thought he had an oxygen chamber. >> water silo. the democrats' production at the hearing was a bit wanting. >> ambassador taylor, i would like you to listen to what he said. >> i'll read it for you. it's in response to a question. >> laura: that happens to us sometimes. >> he went on to read it. when you're playing a big dramatic moment, make sure the video is loaded. chairman schiff had his own dramatic moment when republican congresswoman stefanik challenged the way he embellished the presid...

Of years. there is an alternative version of ukraine. ukraine is a lousy country. it's pervasively corrupt. there are really troublesome elements in the government that we're funding. including -- >> we heard about some of them today. >> yeah. i would not be hesitant to make that case. >> thank you so much, ken and andy, both of you tonight. and up next, ed henry just talked to sources on the hill tonight. they're saying the democrats are disappointed in the outcome of today's hearing and how it's playing nationally. plus former attorney general now senate candidate jeff sessions is here exclu...

Witnesses, both bill taylor and george kent, "did you see anything impeachable? didn't have anything. adam schiff on defense adam schiff again on defense today on whether or not he knows who the whistleblower is. he insists he doesn't. even though we have been led to believe that at least his staff talked to the whistleblower. and finally george kent we have been talking about went on camera with his concerns that he raised conflict of interest questions way back in 2015 about hunter biden raking in over $80,000 a month from burisma while his father was overseeing ukrainian policy, jim jordan ...

Virtual theft of, you know, for example, the right to certain energy licenses, correct? >> that is one element, yes, sir. >> and the company burisma, its leader has a little bit of a storied history of corruption, doesn't he? >> he was minister of energy from 2010-2012 under the pro russian government and he used his regulatory authority to award gas exploration licenses to companies that he himself controlled. that would be considered an act of corruption in my view, yes. >> certainly self-dealing. >> certainly self-dealing and self-enriching. >> how did the ukrainian government ultimately pu...