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>> that is a bill deal. but i still think for most americans it still comes back to we know why putin wouldment to have this influence. the question has always been yes, but would the trump campaign actually collude with them to do something. look, we still don't have the answer to this. i don't think the four page e-mail is going to give us legal el-- it's still not clear. but to eugene's point, we are only seeing four pages of e-mails. what bob mueller has, what the congressional committees have who are investigating this, they've got a whole lot more that we don't know anything about. now, ...

It's access to basic health care, specialists. there may only be one or two, and they can charge whatever they want. >> you know, we do have -- unfortunately, we do have that situation. we have a lot of people that it's been actually cheaper to go to seelgts for certain procedures than to have them done in alaska. we hate to see that kind of outsourcing of medical services, but it's not a real competitive market in some of our specialty services that's for sure. >> bottom line, are you going to ask senators -- and by the way, dan sullivan has not said he's a definite yes on this. i know most p...

But it also strikes me someone like mick mulvaney, who wrote this budget by all appearances, genuinely believes in what he's doing. i mean the republicans who are proposing this, it is not politically popular, and it just seems to me they have affirmatively chosen this because they genuinely believe in the project they are engaged in. >> well, i wouldn't go so -- the answer is yes and no. they believe in it, but it doesn't hurt that the koch brothers, over many, many years, have spent hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars propping up and creating think tanks and all kinds of so-called n...

Education, health care for working families. >> i want to ask you about, you say the koch brothers and obviously they sort of funded a huge part of this movement, produced these kind of ideas and also politicians individually. but it also strikes me someone like mick mulvaney, who wrote this budget by all appearances, genuinely believes in what he's doing. i mean the republicans who are proposing this, it is not politically popular, and it just seems to me they have affirmatively chosen this because they genuinely believe in the project they are engaged in. >> well, i wouldn't go so -- the ans...

To you about everything you've been through or -- >> nobody but my mom before she went to jail for stabbing her husband. >> you're going to let us know if you harm yourself, right? or if you're thinking about it? >> what i really want to do, is when i turn 21, i want to come here and be an officer so i can show kids the way i grew up and they don't want to grow up like that. because no kid should have a life i grew up with, nobody. >> don't do any damage to yourself, right? even if it doesn't hurt. >> he's one of those kids that kind of gets a place in your heart maybe. there are a few here th...