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I don't think it will fly with the supreme court. i see the 20 page letter from the defense team as really being a hearts and minds document, trying to convince the american people of something, rather than convincing the judicial system. >> i want to be clear. we don't know, glen, the derivation of the letter in terms of who leaked it. you think it is a pr blitz, that you think it was written with that intent as opposed to defining, challenging, putting in perspective the legal authority. >> i do. i think we have come to realize that bob mueller team doesn't leak. that's what we've come to le...

Interview asked the appropriate t topics. so that should give them a sense that this isn't the witch hunt they are trying to plaque -- to make it be. >> do you think they were trying to link the security clearance with kushner status in the mueller investigation. he said he simply is a witness. >> i think for sure that is what he's trying to say. and he may well be right. his point being if this client of mine was likely to be indicted or was a target of the investigation, then surely mueller's team, notwithstanding the fact that it doesn't leak, would have notified the white house offices tha...

Would not agree with any foreign power trying to influence our presidential election. >> michael, this can happen when you have a well-known lawyer slash spokesman for your cause, when the other team, in this case robert mueller, not only doesn't leak, they seem to be her metically sealed. they don't react to these allegations. these allegations hang out there and become the truth for some over time. >> yeah, brian. i hope people will look at politico tomorrow morning, a story i edited today as a headline, i believe it was "robert mueller has a new spokesman, rudy giuliani." giuliani is out he...

Power trying to influence our presidential election. >> michael, this can happen when you have a well-known lawyer slash spokesman for your cause, when the other team, in this case robert mueller, not only doesn't leak, they seem to be her metically sealed. they don't react to these allegations. these allegations hang out there and become the truth for some over time. >> yeah, brian. i hope people will look at politico tomorrow morning, a story i edited today as a headline, i believe it was "robert mueller has a new spokesman, rudy giuliani." giuliani is out here saying all these things that h...

Doesn't leak, they seem to be hermetically sealed. they don't react to these allegations. these allegations hang out there and become the truth for some over time. >> yeah, brian. i hope people will look at politico tomorrow morning, a story i edited today as a headline, i believe it was "robert mueller has a new spokesman, rudy giuliani." giuliani is out here saying all these things that he says mueller is doing. mueller has told him this. mueller has this kind of time line. and mueller can't respond. mueller has been incredibly tight-lipped. it's possible he's leaking to journalists and we d...