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And sweeping, their efforts to upend our election. all we are hearing about is this notion about how it started -- mueller doesn't make one reference to the dossier in terms of substantiating what he found and catherine didn't mention that flynn got a threatening phone call from john dowd, the president's lawyer saying we hear you are going to turn state's evidence, you might want to think about it because the president has been thinking and saying good things about you we aren't sure that's going to hold. that's maybe a textbook obstruction of justice. >> shannon: can't we have both of these ...

I went no on the final vote saying, no, i wasn't going to vote. i was part of the group that ultimately stopped the bill back in march. so that didn't drive the train. i think that ideas ought to drive the train and our districts and the viewpoints of those districts ought to drive the train. that's what i've tried to include in my calculation of this. >> after you voted no, after the president had basically sent a threat to you courtesy of nick mulvaney, then what did the president say to you? >> nothing. >> and what did that original threat sound like? >> it sounded like the thing that doesn...