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Notified. tell us what else we now know, if anything, about this gunman. >> well, we just learned from law enforcement here that he is being -- the suspect is being interrogated. that doesn't mean e he's cooperating but he's still being interrogated. they've also determined this entire region here, you can see cars going back and forth is now no longer under threat. we learned quite a bit of what went down this afternoon. the alleged suspect, gerald ramos came in, a late 30s male, came in with smoke grenades and he had a vendetta against the newspaper, "capital gazette," he filed a suit agains...

Law enforcement here that he is being -- the suspect is being interrogated. that doesn't mean e he's cooperating but he's still being interrogated. they've also determined this entire region here, you can see cars going back and forth is now no longer under threat. we learned quite a bit of what went down this afternoon. the alleged suspect, gerald ramos came in, a late 30s male, came in with smoke grenades and he had a vendetta against the newspaper, "capital gazette," he filed a suit against them about defamation. he lost that suit. he went in intent on targeting and killing certain individu...

Fundamentally loyal. it is cowardly. owner on the other ends of the spectrum you have norm eisen, senior fellow of brookings institute, he was a former star to president obama. in an opinion piece he wrote this the acts don't appear to be legal, it doesn't mean e meet the level of treason as president trump quotes. he writes, quote, i believe the author is doing the ethical thing of resisting trump from within -- and in write about it openly, calls him an american hero, what is anonymous? hero or coward? >> in this country there are several ways to blow the whistle when you believe there is wr...

Book -- bob woodward book, it brought the voice of this anonymous official and the official says there are a lot of other people like him or her, that there are many people among this so-called resistance. so i was a little bit amused to hear the op-ed of the "new york times" say we didn't think it was going to be this big a deem. because on one level that's true, this was not surprising on that level, but it is remarkable to see it all said in a single op ed. i think that's why it's still driving conversations, still driving people's fears as we head into the week. >> i mean it does bring the...