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Political future challenging him if indeed he does run in 2024. doesn't mean he will. he's notoriously fickle, we don't know what he will do. but the fact that all of these republicans are afraid to dare challenge him, from ron desantis, nikki haley, mike pence, they're all basically running scared of him right now. and he is the leader of the party, the nomination is his to lose. and if he runs, i think that that is what we're going to be dealing with for the next four years. >> ladies and gentlemen, there you have it. we're greatly indebted to our starting line on this friday night. many tha...

At worst it does him some damage. also on the charlottesville issue, what he said last night didn't make up for what he did last week but reasonably well said. kind of puft it to bed pip think he does have to repeat, don't you think, what he said last night. otherwise it looks like that was a one-off, reading something off a teleprompter. i think at least he should sort of say again what he said last night. >> he should. doesn't mean he will. >> not to belabor the point, but another thing that continues to strike me about the rallies, it's not like he uses these rallies as an opportunity to un...

Oath. just because he says he will do it doesn't mean he will. joining me david ripkin a former prosecutor and white house legal adviser under presidents reagan and bush 41 and paul served as deputy assistance secretary for policy in the department of homeland security. david, i want to start with you. you are a donald trump supporter. do you think it's wise for him to testify under oath? >> it is probably not wise. any kind of testimony under oath always presents a possibility of a perjury charge. from a legal perspective it's not wise. from a political perspective it may be necessary. it's a...

>> trump is a master showman. he really is. i don't think he would have gone this way unless he knew what he was doing. one of the things i have counted him out at least eight times since this all started last march or whenever it was. the guy knows what he's doing. the only problem is what he's doing is a not good for the country and probably not a good strategy to win a general election. he could win the republican nomination. >> you really think that? >> i do. i think donald trump right now, he wouldn't get to 50% of the odds because there's so many candidates but he has the best odds of wi...

Country and probably not a good strategy to win a general election. he could win the republican nomination. >> you really think that? >> i do. i think donald trump right now, he wouldn't get to 50% of the odds because there's so many candidates but he has the best odds of winning the republican nomination of any candidate out there. that doesn't mean he will. but i think he's got a good shot. >> we should note that there are a lot of people speculating part of his announcement yesterday had to do with a in you poll showing him behind in iowa to ted cruz. although polling out today showing him ...