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Transitions? trump has taken dozens of meetings over the past few weeks. is he getting done what needs to be done here? >> absolutely. there is really both similarities but wide differences. the similarities are that the politics always drives the personnel decisions. it's happening again. it's not ideological at least from my perspective, and then the personnel are going to draw the policy, but what makes this difference is you have a circus master, and literally the clowns and the performers and the animals all circling the trump circus, and he's got the little whip and he's making it all wo...

Fight, several weeks ago they were saying or "game of thrones" those may be accurate descriptions but at the end of the day it's trump making this happen the way he wants it to happen. if he didn't want it to happen the way it was happening it wouldn't. >> elise, let's go back to russia for a minute. how big a deal is it this news reports in the "new york times" and "the washington post" that russia was influencing and pulling for trump? >> well first, i would caution donald trump against picking fights with the cia, that usually does not end well for presidents. >> that's true. >> i think it'...

Against the "epa's activist agenda." what happened to the epa under a potential administrator pruitt? >> i think that's a mistake picking scott pruitt for head of the epa. you pick somebody who is dedicated to doing away with an agency he's probably not going to do a good job of running it in a way that benefits americans. americans want clean air, they want clean water. they want to make sure we don't trash our environment in the name of profits for big oil and petroleum industry. i'm critical of that and also critical of the selection of general michael flynn, i mean when general barry mccaf...

Whether the president-elect should have had a stronger response against russia in light of these reports. >> i am outraged. i don't think any foreign entity, any individual, any -- >> well why don't you say that and why didn't trump say that? >> i'm saying it. i just said it. stop and let me -- okay, i just said it, let me actually take yes for an answer. i said it. okay? i don't think donald trump doesn't think, no one thinks that a foreign entity should be interfering with a u.s. election, bottom line, full stop, i said it. now the next thing, what proof has anyone vf the effect of the outco...

Calling it that. when you have an individual or people that purposely target a group or a set of people for specific reasons, ideological reasons, let's call it what it is. that is an act of terrorism to not only scare the people at this place, this planned parenthood or any other clinic that may be going on. it's wrong, we should condemn it, and i'm glad that thank goodness, luckily he wasn't as successful as he probably wanted to be at killing people. >> mark, i want to get your opinion on this. sometimes the line isn't so clear between crazy and someone doing something for their political i...