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Was passed 15 year jail term for people who protest or call it a war. we're seeing now what the russians continue to do to alexi a. so, what could happen to her? she's reportedly in court today? >> i applaud her. she's a hero. that was a very brave thing for her to do. maybe spending 15 years in jail and by the way, i know that building, that television station. i used to appear there before i was banned as ambassador. you don't do that without the passive support of others to allow you to get on that stage where you said millions and millions of russians saw it. if she's brave enough to do th...

Anyone else. as you know, and as you've heard us say repeatedly, we do not have a strategy of regime change in russia or anywhere else, for that matter. >> secretary of state antony blinken walking back the president's remarks in that speech yesterday as it makes headlines around the world. joining me is p.j. crowley, former state department spokesperson in the obama administration. p.j., awfully good to see you. let's talk about president biden who has largely been very careful with his words since the start of this invasion although he has called president putin a war criminal and a butcher....

Gary lock told me yesterday. here's that. >> this is really something that has to be decided between ukraine and russia. and obviously, the west is very supportive of the position of the ukrainian people and the ukrainian government. but ultimately, it's a discussion between these two countries. you don't need to add more people into the kitchen, quite frankly. >> congresswoman, do you agree with that sentiment? do you think the u.s. should have more of a direct involvement diplomatically? >> well, alex, great to see you. look, i think our governor, that's the governor of my state, former gove...

Trigger an article 5 response. >> neil: you didn't take away from it what some might have, that if it was limited use of check call weapons and have limited spread, it would be as big a deal to us? isn't the use of chemical weapons no matter how severe the fallout, that -- that used to be called a red line. >> well, first of all, it's against the law. it's against international law to do that. secondly, one of the things we need to remember is that there is very little protection for his own troops. that doesn't mean that he cares about his troops. in fact, he doesn't. look at how they're bein...

Was not in it, but i will leave that alone, but there are some things that he honed in on and are accusations cl don't hold merit to me. wye have a saying in new jersey, and i felt it was all hat and no cattle. he said that you called the woman who wrote the 1619 project, that you called her provocative. that's not a compliment necessarily if you call someone provocative is it? >> no. >> no, i think ted cruz is very provocative, and that doesn't mean -- that doesn't mean i agree with his philosophy or i agree with his statements. he pointed out you also called the author acclaimed. she won a p...