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I agree this is unlikely to be super cleverness by ty cobb and mike dowd. >> you think it's incompetence? that was the binary choice. >> ty cobb is a very experienced washington lawyer. he's sitting outdoors at blt steak where there are a million people coming around. >> next door to "the new york times." >> he says at the top of his lungs, my guy is innocent. we want to cooperate with the special counsel. >> so you think ty cobb saw ken vogel and -- >> i think ty cobb, even if you dont see ken vogel. >> doesn't mind being heard. >> this story helps trump, let's be honest. we can all talk abou...

Elbow. so he was there, he was present. scaramucci we are told was not here today. but tleer also giving us somewhat conflicting messages. is he actually an employee of the white house yet? they say yes, he is. has he gotten a approximate clearance, they won't talk about that. has he taken the oath required of all senior staffers, they are not aware of that. this is a communications director who is really managing up, going right to the president. normally the chief is in charge of all staffers no matter how null, no matter how wealthy, powerful or big their personalities may be. and it really...

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America we become good, which is why the administration doesn't mind most things. the doj, benghazi, the shelf life of these things only last for so long. but you know what lasts forever? social change in government, syria distracts from us those big ticket items. and syria will pass. but the desire for fundamental change, that will still burn. never forget that, either. so kg? >> that was pretty good. >> thank you. chapter one? was that too long for you, bob? >> it was just fine, greg. i had a chance to take a nap in the middle. >> that's pleasant. the paradox, kimberly, if the war on terro...

Vladimir putin essentially taunting us with this guy? >> well, i think we ought to have a realistic assessment of our relationship with the russians and him specifically. he is an old kgb colonel that believes he can somehow restore the press stege of the old -- prestige of the old russian empire. the demographics and everything else including the economy dependent on oil works against him. but we've got to look at him from a realistic standpoint and that is that he is a person who feels so em -- embolden who doesn't mind sticking his thumb in our eye which is what he is doing in this snowden ...