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This is a republican that can attract independent vote. is that going to resonate to pull new people into the party so say, this is a party big enough to win illinois, party big enough to win pennsylvania and ohio again. that's what the debate will be about. we'll see things come down. i'll make my decision probably in the march/april timeframe. >> jeb bush was said to have taken a shot at republicans yesterday saying the gop doesn't need conservatives to win the white house. what it needs is a candidate who would be willing to lose the primary in order to win the general. your thoughts on tha...

Jeb bush, chris christie and huckabee, very dicey word, and then you. do you think you could switch that around just in case hypothetically you decided to? >> i could say we'd make the argument that it's still fairly early and that polls may change and really i haven't decided, but that's part of the decisionmaking process. is the message that i'm bringing to the country, is it viable? is it something that's enough different that republicans will pause and say, you know what? this is a republican that can attract african-american vote. this is a republican that can attract independent vote. is...