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Not a joke. i t preoccupied with covering tracks all together with the colleagues. joining me now, special prosecutor and msnbc contributor danny cevallos. let's start with you, jill. how wide ranging this thing was, how many people worked on it, how much money was spent on it, by the russians, according to the indictment. conspiracy, identity theft. what do you make of what's in the document itself? >> it's a very thorough document. it tells a great story that anyone who wants to read it will understand and see the breadth of the russian activities in america. they were really out to disrupt ...

Right now when even he has been forced to admit that the russians did interfere in our election, why don't we have sanctions? i ask mr. president, please implement these sanctions. >> we talked a bit about what's in this document, dan. you've been thinking about what's not in it. what stands out to you about what might be coming and what was left unanswered yesterday? and what's the significance of that? >> jill is right. the indictment gives us a lot of detail, much more than is required in a federal indictment. so there's also questions that are opened by what's not said in the indictment. f...

Dnc and of john podesta's e-mails, wikileaks pushing it out. we know the president said to russia, oh, go get her e-mails and wikileaks, please release them. wikileaks did. we know that don junior said i love this dirt that i'm going to get. and especially if it's later in the summer. so, they were helping to plan how it was used. the fact that it's not in this indictment doesn't say it won't be in the next one and no one should jump to conclusions. there's no evidence there's no collusion. in fact, i would say this is tightening the noose around the white house, circling the wagons and gettin...

>> i wt you to respond to that. i'm also justurious as we learn about these 13 individuals, the couple, the two women who came out to scout out the electoral landscape, what's going to happen to them? what's the point of laying them out in this indictment like this? >> that's for the american public to understand how at risk our elections are and possibly rise up and say to congress, take action. protect us, pass new laws. they're based on paper ballots. that's not what we have now. we have to take different steps to protect ourselves. yes, the russian government isn't mentioned but 1.2 millio...

Discord is a phrase we saw time and time again in that indictment yesterday. >> yes. >> to cause chaos or cause confusion. is that fundamental when you have things like the school shooting that these bots and trolls monopolize. >> what the russians care about is an issue that is divisive, will latch on to and feel strongly about. there's a lot of emotion wrapped in really tragic news incidents like this like a school shooting. we saw this happen right after the texas shooting, after the las vegas shooting. it was a very similar reaction. it happened very briefly, in the first 24 to 48 hours. t...