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[silence]. Now, turning attention to the ron johnson letter, if i may. Yes. On august 31st, Senator Johnson is getting ready to travel to the ukraine in september with murphy. Johnson called the president and sought permission to be the bearer of good news. Right. The president said i am not ready to lift the aid. Senator johnson, he writes a 10 page letter. Very detailed. He gives some remarkable details. I would like to read it. Its on page 6. This is Senator Johnson speak. I asked him whether there was some kind of arrangement or ukraine would take action and be lifted. Without hesitation P...

View, it seems very wild to think that a small group of people could pose a threat to the most militarized superstate in world history. but if you are this group of white power activists any ha a plan for self-styled terrorism, guerilla warfare, disrupting infrastructure, sabotage and assassination. and they took a long view of gradual destabilization leading to race war that they believed could work. so this question of ability to carry out a plan came into play in ways that just were not translated very well, for instance in jury instruction. >> all right. although the psychological barrier ...

An ordinary person, a wreck ideology on mainstream political view, it seems very wild to think that a small group of people could pose a threat to the most militarized superstate in world history. but if you are this group of white power activists they had a plan for self-styled terrorism, guerilla warfare, disrupting infrastructure, sabotage and assassination. and they took a long view of gradual destabilization leading to race war that they believed could work. so this question of ability to carry out a plan came into play in ways that just were not translated very well, for instance in jury...

Imagine a coup effort working suddenly got a lot easier for everybody in the country, including every member of some future jury, a year ago, this month. it's fascinating stuff in the history, here. the history is rich and dark and fascinating. and doesn't point in any one direction, in a simple way. >> professor kathleen, university of chicago, author of the excellent book, bring the war home -- i'm glad you're able to be here. thank you. >> thank you. >> all right, we've got much more ahead. stay with us. with us

Painted himself into a corner because of his miscalculation or misjudgment that he wasn't going to be able to pressure nato into backing down and he is now in that corner, and it doesn't appear as if he plans to come out of the corner any other way than fighting. he has countered the rhetoric that he's hearing from the united states, calling out what is believed to be his plans. he has countered that by getting very angry on television with this narrative that this false narrative that ukraine isn't really a country. president zelenskyy isn't really a leader. he has no legitimacy and ukraine i...