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[silence]. Now, turning attention to the ron johnson letter, if i may. Yes. On august 31st, Senator Johnson is getting ready to travel to the ukraine in september with murphy. Johnson called the president and sought permission to be the bearer of good news. Right. The president said i am not ready to lift the aid. Senator johnson, he writes a 10 page letter. Very detailed. He gives some remarkable details. I would like to read it. Its on page 6. This is Senator Johnson speak. I asked him whether there was some kind of arrangement or ukraine would take action and be lifted. Without hesitation P...

President's skepticism of foreign aid. the president is very skeptical of foreign aid, is that correct? >> he is deeply skeptical of sending u.s. tax paying dollars into an environment that is corrupt. it's as good as kissing it good-bye. >> is that something new he believes or something he ran on? >> something he ran on and implemented policies as soon as he became president. ambassador hale told us about the review of all foreign aid programs and described it as a zero based evaluation. >> right. you took the deposition of mark sandy a career official at omb? >> correct. >> and he had some i...

Even though we thought we were in the new open public part of this impeachment inquiry, we went back into the skit in the basement of the united states capital for tumor depositions and on friday it was david holmes who is an assistant for ambassador taylor and saturday, yesterday we were there for several hours for mark sandy a dedicated crew staff for the office of management and budget under budget of why there was a hold on aid to ukraine. his answer was one that i don't believe there should be another open hearing until the transcript is released because it's going to change some of the a...