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Federal government, sales tax, property tax. 60 cents of it. wait, you said that's a low rate. >> no, no, no -- what i'm saying. >> you think 60 cents out of every dollar of the government's low? >> no, what i'm saying is that argument doesn't resinate powerfully enough. what we need to do is transition to a new tax argument such as realizing the real job creators in this country are low to middle class income americans who actually buy products and services. >> look at people like rand paul who are able to energize conservatives, young people. and it's because he sticks to his values. nothing...

Really can the american conservative movement re-express itself in ways that are reflective of 21st century america and all the demographics? because that's really where our solution is going to start. >> you're a conservative blogger, right? >> i am. >> let's talk about the answers. if we keep spending like this, what's the answer except bankruptcy and we become like europe? >> i believe the answer for us is to take a step back and really reenergize our conservative agenda for america in the 21st century. and a lot of these problems. for example, we talk a lot about low taxes, right? that's o...

Federal government, sales tax, property tax. 60 cents of it. wait, you said that's a low rate. >> no, no, no -- what i'm saying. >> you think 60 cents out of every dollar of the government's low? >> no, what i'm saying is that argument doesn't resinate powerfully enough. what we need to do is transition to a new tax argument such as realizing the real job creators in this country are low to middle class income americans who actually buy products and services. >> look at people like rand paul who are able to energize conservatives, young people. and it's because he sticks to his values. nothing...

I think it would make a change hungry country -- >> that was rachel maddow and others discussing the upcoming election. joining me now is one of the co-hosts of msnbcs "the cycle." he writes for salon.com. good to have you here. as we talk about what we saw on "meet the press," voters acknowledge the economy is getting better. as we see the unemployment numbers go down and waiting for the friday jobs report coming out this friday, why do you think it doesn't resinate with the voters? >> it's been tough to figure out. on a certain level, they do recognize it. if you look at the polls, more peop...

I love what you're doing. you've got this organization called health core. tell us about it, i think it clues in on the key factor behind childhood obesity. >> well, we started it based on the peace corps model. so you take young kids recently graduated from college and put them in high schools, that way it's a peer-to-peer mentor relationship. so we put these the -- >> she pointed to me when she said old person. did you see that? >> kids don't -- it doesn't resinate for them the same way it does. someone who is young, cool, and hip and understands what they're going through. we put these kids...