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Criticize it. also from a political perspective, it's just -- it's not working. his sort of back and forth. on the one hand catering to the alt-right. the other hand, condemning white supremacy. it's not washing. people understand what he's doing. it's pretty clear that he's doing this reluctantly. and whether or not you're the ceo of merck or you're jimmy fallon, you know, it doesn't make sense and doesn't ring true. that's a big problem for the president moving forward. >> i have to say it was almost whiplash. the president, ceo of merck quit the advisory council and made the statement about...

Read the entire e-mail, it really doesn't ring true. why would you go to a meeting with donald junior and the campaign manager without understanding what it was about? it just doesn't pass the smell test. >> ned, the "new york times" had an op-ed today that said all roads lead to kushner and he ended it by saying it's time for him not to have security clearance any longer. he says ultimately it's the president's decision. he can change the rules to make it so he has security clearance. >> we heard of many scandals in the past couple days especially, but this is another scandal. he reported to ...

Were violent criminals. you are covering this earlier. there are some very bad people in this country and they should be deported. everyone agrees that if you are a violent member of ms-13 or if you commit some sort of terrible crime, you should be tossed, no matter what kind of status you have. but this guy is not that. depending on who you believe, he either committed a minor crime related to immigration laws or no crime at all. that is not at all of president obama was doing. that is what we are seeing under president trump. >> martha: david, what do you think? >> look, daca, you have to un...

Statement? >> because the people that were deported under president obama were violent criminals. you are covering this earlier. there are some very bad people in this country and they should be deported. everyone agrees that if you are a violent member of ms-13 or if you commit some sort of terrible crime, you should be tossed, no matter what kind of status you have. but this guy is not that. depending on who you believe, he either committed a minor crime related to immigration laws or no crime at all. that is not at all of president obama was doing. that is what we are seeing under president...

For sure. you would have the press corps traveling with the secretary of state. this is something that the american people have a significant reason to know about. yet theye not traveling on the plane. there was some question about whether they would be able to go at all after a lot of pushback. now they're able to travel commercially. there's some complication with any single reporter getting to these three places commercially and actually being able to follow the secretary of state. you heard the explanation by sean spicer. the secretary wanted to save money. it's not even clear going in a s...