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Them? i have to go back to todd, who's chuckling at the joy you're getting out of this thing. >> listen, i think christie's remark right there is the reason he's popular with, you know, people, a lot of people in the country, he's making sense, it's ridiculous, he dismisses it as such. but, you know, that's great for him in a democratic primary. it's not great in a republican primary. it's a very conservative contest. the fact is, when his record and his positions on issues get out there, his appeal's going to start to drop. and i think they're smart enough to realize that. >> what would he be...

>> i think he doesn't run. and 100 days after he announces he doesn't run the second chris christie for independent candidacy movement will begin. >> okay. from facebook the conversation going on as we're having our conversation here, and we've been monitoring it on facebook this morning. this was interesting from steve, this is for you congressman, he's saying there's going to be no jobs bill or compromise. we've got a divided government until some side comes back in november 2012 with a mandate. is washington effectively shut down over the jobs bill and over your word coming up on the supe c...

Final moments now with our final moments now with our roundtable. we want to look at a sound bite making news here this morning. my conversation with governor mcdonnell on the question of whether chris christie of new jersey is going to get in the race. this is what he said. >> chris christie. he's an extraordinary communicator. he's a great governor. enormous reforms. and everything from the pension system to budget reform in a blue state. i just asked him to be vice chairman of the republican governor's association because he's such a terrific leader. i just think whoever is going to get i...

Why he thinks he should be president. and he says when he was governor he worked with people. he met with democrats, he met with them behind the scenes and most of it was done behind the scenes. you get a feeling this guy could break some backs behind the scenes, you know. >> but -- >> he's a democratic machine. >> he got historic budget passed in new jersey by doing business with democratic leaders. all democratic leaders dealing with a democratic machine. >> that's who loathed him, by the way. he worked with them to get something done. you watch him last night and you have to say it's a sham...

>> i just hope he doesn't run. in the end his tremendous misgivings, maybe he is right. we have this with obama. he wasn't ready really. >> got four little kids. >> maybe christie isn't ready. maybe he feels like everybody wants him to but perhaps he does need longer. >> you could also argue that he might have a better chance at this moment of becoming the president of the united states than being re-elected governor of new jersey and given all of the problems of running that state. >> that is true. >> mark halpern, you wrote the book on it, on running for president. you showed just the brutal...