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Course, because bad things get worse when ignored. this in vietnam. >> i don't believe that he would have allowed that to happen. it just wasn't to his advantage to allow that to happen. i don't believe he knew about it. if he tells me that he didn't know about it, and i will take him at his word. >> not just disrespecting intel, not just disrespecting a dead man, but a dead american. the warmbier family as well, that this president pretended to console. >> tonight we pledge to honor otto's memory with total american resolve. >> pretended. that's right. because he did the opposite. there is no...

That's worse in many respects. whether it's the stormy daniels payment, or whether it's this instance. it doesn't serve him well and it doesn't serve the country well and, you know, i understand that both of those things were very personal matters. one involved his son-in-law and what he son-in-law wanted. another one involved an alleged relationship with a woman outside of his marriage. so we saw there was problems on issues that were very personal, chris. >> right. >> but i understand that. but it doesn't serve. there's no way to defend, and i'm not going to, the new york times story tonight...

American citizen. >> hold on. >> using it to rile people up saying, we're going to send him back to kenya, what else is it? >> his only defense would be -- >> go back to africa. >> -- i believed it, if he says, i believe he wasn't born here, that's fine. then he's not owning it as a deception. but if he meant it to play along to the deception and go back to africa literally, racist? >> yes. well, i mean there's evidence. he showed you the birth certificate. why would you, why would you question that? >> why did talib apologize? >> why? why did talib apologize for what? >> calling him a racist?...

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That make me hate myself. >> so you can do something that is racist and you're ignorant of and you don't know about it. >> right. >> but it doesn't mean that necessarily the entire part of it -- it doesn't mean you are part of the kkk, it doesn't mean you run around saying the "n" word. barack obama said this, they think it is like running people around calling people the "n" word or they have to be part of an organization like the guys marching in charlottesville. sometimes it is implicit bias. i had this whole thing -- i didn't want you to prepare anything because i had a surprise for you. d...