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But what do you do then? you have for a time being a divided country. and given the fact that we know a lot about colonel gadhafi and don't like him and given the fact that we know very little about the rebels in the east who really did this uprising, for the time being, that may not be a bad outcome. >> so then -- >> it doesn't settle things. it doesn't settle things. but settling it may involve much more military involvement on our parts. and i don't think our interests justify that kind of additional military engagement. >> well, we don't know, and that has been one question, if two libyas ...

Is there a breaking point there. >> may be. ita it tells you something when people who work closely with this president, when they say things like things are at another level inside this white house right now in terms of the chaos and uncertainty. you saw the confusion just over an announcement on tariffs. total chaos right now. even the people who think they know what the president is going to do, qualify that information by saying, until he does it, we really don't know. this is a president who is increasingly isolated at this point. people who have covered this and observed it say this has ...

We'll dig into that. an isolated president trump is lashing out at his own attorney general again calling his work disgraceful. was jeff sessions who publicly defended himself yesterday suddenly trolling the president when he dined out with rod rosenstein last night? and the reports of a death match between chief of staff john kelly and gentlem. the internal chaos and the sense that things are unraveling. >> communications director hope hicks is resigning. >> she's the fourth trump white house communications director to do so. >> what i'm worry about right now in the white house is the res...