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Producer and randall picket is season four winner of "the ap n apprenti apprentice." is donald trump the least racist person you ever met? >> donald trump is vying for the most racist person that i've met these days. it's interesting that he has this sound byte of saying he's not racist. i remember when he was asked how do you defend against racism? he said i hired randall. like saying i have my break friend. when we look at the pattern, i think people were afraid to label him a racist because there was maybe political correctness. after you look at the history, i grew up near new york. you lo...

Former governor of new york. when trump it doesn't seem to stick. >> i think partly for the same reason that trump's racism doesn't stick. right? think about the way that trent lott lost his career. >> yeah. >> for the kind of comment that wouldn't even be on a radar today if trump said it. i think it's because, again, all of this depravity is already priced in. people don't expect anything more of him. and so -- i think that the real scandal will be if some of those other 100 women turn out to be instead of somebody like stormy daniels, have had experience more akin to, like you said, the kin...

>> donald trump is vying for the most racist person that i've met these days. it's interesting that he has this sound byte of saying he's not racist. i remember when he was asked how do you defend against racism? he said i hired randall. like saying i have my break friend. when we look at the pattern, i think people were afraid to label him a racist because there was maybe political correctness. after you look at the history, i grew up near new york. you look at what is happening in new york and housing discrimination and treatment of black lives matter protesters, all of what we've seen is a ...

He wanted to pair you with a white contestant. we keep talking about the substance of donald trump's racist behavior but haven't talked about the outcomes. could his pronouncements have outcomes that could wind up helping in someways the daca recipients in jeopardy? >> well, that's very specific. so i'm not sure, but what we do know, right, is that the daca program was reinstated because of judge's seeing an argument that included donald trump's racial animosity towards mexican americans because he said that. we know it. it's clear. >> it's on video. >> it's on video. the question is that clea...

Trump, still not getting the answer he wanted, asked, where "your people" are from. the analyst said her parents were korean. whereupon trump asked, "why the pretty korean lady" isn't negotiating with north korea on his administration's behalf. that kind of racist pigeonholing is one of many, many, many, many, many examples of racism we've seen from this president. >> we have our inner cities, african-americans, hispanics are living in hell. because it's so dangerous. you walk down the street, you get shot. i have had horrible rulings, i've been treated very unfairly by this judge. now this ju...