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With his gut on key moments on several political and policy fronts. >> his tone drew swift pushback from many inside and outside of washington. among them ohio governor john kasich. a true leader offers hope. doesn't take hope from innocent children who call america home. remember, today is easter sunday. this from republican congresswoman leyton. such a strong message of love and new beginnings from donald trump on easter sunday. get the sarcasm there. we have more from white house correspondent boris sanchez. >> reporter: no word why president trump spend the easter weekend on immigration. w...

Here? >> well, the president is operating off a mindset that thinks about goods as the only relevant thing in this equation. of course, they're not. services are incredibly important. in fact, services are one of the huge sources of american exports across the world. but the president's world view is sort of -- as reflected in his comment on things like coal and steel, has to do with factories and images of people digging things out of the ground, and doesn't take account for what the modern economy actually is. that's why it was so extraordinary that he, on the tape we just heard, admitted he...

A lot of individuals would like to work at the white house, but a lot of people were exiting. there were r a lot of talented people that like to give back, but when you think about the environment that exists within this administration, a lot of those individuals are going to say i'm not willing to put other things on the line to do this. it's just not worth it. it's difficult to work with a leader who doesn't take advice. the president as the commander-in-chief should set a tone and an environment that encourages all individuals who work underneath him to give their best. and you're not curre...

>> i'm joined by retired general barry mccaffrey, who's also the white house drug czar during the clinton administration. and vicky cornell, her husband singer chris cornell died last year after battling drug addiction. thank you for being her. vicky, i want to start with you. i want to send my condolences for your loss. and i just want to let you talk. what is your message today? >> i think that we have a deadly epidemic that is taking 174 lives a day. and that's due to drug overdoses alone, doesn't take into account drug and who will-related deaths. it would be like a plane crash every singl...

Talking. but i haven't requested any meeting. but we'll see what happens. >> coming a long way from fire and fury, mike pence in asia on his way to what could be direct talks with the north koreans at the olympics. rex tillerson hinted at that earlier in the day in a news conference in peru. joining me is an nbc contributor ed price and richard stengle, an msnbc political analyst as well. rick, we're talking about diplomacy here. something that doesn't take place very often, but what pence quickly said is if they were to talk, he would be talking about their need to be denuclearize before anyt...