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Struggle? >> would he be joking when he said that making a deal on healthcare would be an easy one? >> i think if you watched the tape, it was a light-hearted moment, jonathan. he was having -- >> -- he didn't think it is easy. >> no. watch. he was having a fun time the with senators there jim? >> you know, the other thing that the president said last night was our soldiers are fighting like never before in iraq. as you know, sean, u.s. troops there are in support role and advise and assist role. what does he mean? what does the president mean when he said they are fighting there like never be...

Doesn't take into account changes that might happen over the next few days, and we are getting a sense of what those changes might be, and do you think the number 26 is likely to be going up or down at this point? >> likely to go up even though we have seen a successful lobbying effort on behalf of the evidence, and certainly speaker ryan being open to making changes to the bill after initially being reluctant to do so, and even if it passes the house of representatives, johns, we know it's going to go to the senate and it's dead on arrival in many ways because democrats will stand united agai...

Outlaying less money to cover people under medicaid and cover people, pay for some of these tax credits. there's a little bit of a feedback loop here. it's worth saying, though, the white house is saying, this doesn't take into consideration all the other stuff we're going to be doing down the road. the problem is that no one really knows what to paycheckma that other stuff, because there's no paper, no text, no documentation. >> paul ryan was asked that, this is part one of basically a three-step plan. and part of it is going to be buying insurance over state lines and what price is going to ...

Union, but addresses the american people, a chance to lay out his agenda and just, again, show his supporters out there it's an amen moment, there's our president standing up there. for those who didn't vote for him, there's a point where he's the president, going to be the president for 203 more weeks at a minimum. >> we're seeing the president's motorcade, by the way, arriving at capitol hill. >> also an important moment for him to see the expanse of government, the cabinet officials there, the supreme court, all of the members of government that he's going to have to work with to get his ag...

Media. by and large there's little courage in terms of talking about at openly as you just saw ith -- like you just saw. >> now these people don't have the health insurance they need. they're sick. the veterans are sick. the veterans are broken down. they're not getting what they need. if you can answer any of that i'll sit down and shut up like elizabeth warren. >> and steven, you worked in the senate and the house. you know when these guys come back and this is all taken very seriously. as much as they might want to make it look like the people attacking them it's not any senator who walks o...