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Senators. so the democracy part of that sentence is a tough one to be positive about going forward. >> who is the next obama, and if so can he or she win? >> yeah, he or she can win. i mean, i think the next democratic nominee can win because donald trump has done something no other president's ever done, which is upon getting elected, he was interested with, you know, a losers share of the vote -- i, by the way, never used this phrase, popular vote. that's an american phrase. you know what they call that everywhere else in the world? the vote. because of all of our great advances in democracy...

The dhs secretary, she is blaming rulings from activist judges. you're talking about a political solution here. to solve the problem that your town is facing, what remedy would you like to see congress bring? >> well, let me start at the beginning. first of all, we do need to control our borders. that's a given. but we have all these problems in latin america that i don't think our foreign aid is helping any. you have the gang problems. you have the reason they're coming up here. they're credible reasons for their needing asylum. but we have to deal with the immigration to begin with. we have ...

Criminal justice reform? >> okay, he hasn't led the effort. >> jared kushner absolutely has. >> yes, but we're talking about president trump. >> okay, the trump administration, guys. come on. i think we're going a little far. >> members of the trump administration. >> i think, you know, it's hard -- >> jared kushner had to twist mitch mcconnell's arm to even look at this. mitch mcconnell's own daughter -- >> he wouldn't do it. >> that's a different debate of whether jared kushner would do things without the president's knowledge, but you're right, stephanie. you have to have hope. there's fact...

Mentioning the trump administration or the president by name, he said, i believe in fact-based campaigns. >> right. and i do think, actually, health care is the sleeper issue of this election. the democrats do very well, it will be because not only of a referendum on president trump, whose supremely unpopular with a lot of -- majority of voters, but really because of health care. so, so fascinating to watch health care be on the ballot in 2010, be on the ballot in 2014, his party takes a beating in both those midterm elections, and he said -- we all remember after 2014, it was the lowest turno...

Where the voter i.d. law was in effect. >> reporter: in the 2016 presidential election, voter turnout was down statewide. but the decline in milwaukee's poorest neighborhoods was jaw-dropping. >> we lost 41,000 voters in the city. we saw a 20% decrease in voter participation from 2012 to 2016. i have no doubt that there were people in the city of milwaukee who doesn't vote in that election because of the photo i.d. requirement. >> i feel like they really, really knew that the turnout in this election would not have been the same, because a lot of people would not have their i.d.'s. otherwise >...