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Of the reasons for that is to keep both sides off base. he loves the idea -- >> he's at 31%. he shouldn't be so worried about balance. like if he goes up two points, it would be an improvement. >> that's right. this is where there may have been a massive miscalculation. it's there their view and the view of their administration, nicole, is that you don't need 50% anymore but you do need more than 31%. and from day one i've been surprised, the biggest surprise of this administration is the president hasn't done more to reach the 54% of people who doesn't vote for him. nicole, you knew him befor...

Collins or the few that swing to decide whether it's passes, will they be influenced enough to sort of vote for something that they've been fundamentally against for so long like the rollback of medicaid expansion? >> these are smart senators. there's a reason they didn't vote for it the last time. i don't think that debate is going to convince then. i do think the white house is pushing them. you saw the president saying any republican who doesn't vote for health care will be known as the republican who didn't save health care. i think the white house is going to continue pressuring hard. i'm...

Don't think she is. i think she's going to vote based on how the politics look for her. >> mike pence has arrived at senator john mccain's -- he's back in washington for the big vote this month. he wrote an op-ed saying that we need to stand up to president trump. now the vice president up there with an olive branch, i guess? >> this is sort of the trump political brand here, it's just perplexing, you're talking about trying to strike the right balance in north dakota, by going after high camp and getting her vote, it harkens back to that phoenix speech where he was really hard on mccain and f...

Saying if your democratic senator doesn't vote for this bill, you should vote her out. so if president trump can't strike the right balance, i don't think that's a calculation for this president. >> she's going to have to hitchhike back to washington. they have tried to unsuccessfully get her out of the senate by offering her jobs in the administration. so they have tried to get her out of there so they could replace her with a republican. one way or another, they want that seat, they want that vote. >> the presideit will be fun toe watch this trip play out, it will be fun to watch senator hig...

Against this saying that congress isn't going to be authorizing force for venezuela. i think there are a number of people who feel that way, that this kind of came out of left field but that it might just be trump being trump, ratcheting up the threats and kind of using force and big blustery language in hopes that other people will back down. now, it's unclear whether or not what his full intention was here, and we did see some pretty strong pushback from venezuela. i think that we'll see -- we'll know more about this when trump comes to washington on monday. at that time he says that he will...