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Nominee for the supreme court, but i'm really intrigued by what you're hearing, what others are saying about the three democrats that joe manchin, donnelly in indiana, heidi highcamp in north dakota, do you have any indication how they are leaning, how much pressure democrats are putting on them to stay united with the party? >> yes. it's not so much what they are thinking, it's about who the nominees could be and how it would play for these senators. rick kavanaugh the judge in the d.c. circuit he's been criticized by conservatives for not being conservative enough on certain dissents. becaus...

You know, it's another one of these election, have consequences moments. democrats have to fight, schumer has to fight it. but let's be realistic. donald trump will get to name the next supreme court justice whether before or after the election. >> lisa murkowski and susan collins can both vote against this, whoever the nominee is. >> ah-ha. >> i find it hard to believe that joe manchin and heidi highcamp are going to go against donald trump's supreme court pick in a state that's overwh m overwhelmingly red and overwhelmingly for trump. they are trying to prove they are conservative democrats....

You got three at least or four possible gettable democratic votes depending on the candidate unless it's something way beyond the pale. i think he probably gets it through. and then roe v. wade really is up to chief justice roberts who becomes, i think, the closest thing to a swing vote on the court. and that's just going to be the reality. he's an institutionalist in that he wants to protect the court. he respects precedent. and he wants the court to move the nation to the right but not but not so fast. i wonder if push came to shove roberts would actually vote to overturn roe v. wade. >> eug...

They put their constituents first. i've seen some real bravery from the three of them as well. mansion said he will protect health care for the people of west virginia. same with heidi highcamp. who they put first is not themselves, not the party. they put their con stistituents first. they will know which way to vote. >> there are obviously a lot of shock waves in the democratic party when tuesday night 28-year-old socialist alexandria beat joe crowley. is this the future of the democratic party? i think it's the future of the party in the bronx where she is. i think we need to listen to our ...

Justice on this issue. >> you don't have to. most likely they say they wait until they get the specific issue and then decide. but if the senate steps up to the responsibilities to put a check on this president's power, they could insist that unless they get a firm commitment they will refuse to confirm that appointment. >> valid point there. betsy, the democrats seem split on tactics when it comes to fighting this nomination. some were trying to decide whether to fight this now. what do you think the tactic and the strategy is here for the democrats? wait until the midterms or put up the figh...