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Forceful, spoken out more if you thought she were going to lose. >> it had nothing to do with that. first of all, we didn't have the information that we ultimately had in january. number one. number two, we didn't want to play into putin's hands, doing the thing that he was trying to do. what would have happened if barack obama had come out and said, the fbi has information that the trump team is colluding with the russians to try to tip the election to hillary clinton? it would have been chaos. and we didn't have the data we have now. we didn't have the data we had even in january. and we did...

Member of the senate judiciary committee. senator durbin, thanks for joining us. president trump says the nunes memo vindicates him in the probe. does it? >> no, of course it does not. the fact that the republicans in the house refuse to allow the minority report, a democratic response to their memo, is an indication that they're bound and determined to continue to find ways to absolve this president from any responsibility. i agree completely with john mccain. it was john mccain who said that trying to undermine the fbi and the department of justice is, frankly, doing putin's work. we ought t...

Deputy director. you can go down the list. and what matters is his motive when he has these interactions. and here with the release of this memo, we know what his motives are because he's been clear about it. he's telegraphed publicly and he said to a number of aides privately that he wanted this memo released because he sees it as a pretext to move on rod rosenstein potentially to fire him. we don't know if he'll do it or not. again, that's clearly what he hopes to accomplish doing this. i think authorizing the public release of the memo, he's probably safe. it was served up to him in an offi...

Motives are because he's been clear about it. he's telegraphed publicly and he said to a number of aides privately that he wanted this memo released because he sees it as a pretext to move on rod rosenstein potentially to fire him. we don't know if he'll do it or not. again, that's clearly what he hopes to accomplish doing this. i think authorizing the public release of the memo, he's probably safe. it was served up to him in an official process from congress. but it's his intervention with the justice department. it's him sending his chief of staff to really berate the attorney general for hi...

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