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Delegitimize them. so here you have the president of the united states of america, saying that the single most important domestic law enforcement agency is not relevant, is not reasonable, is not honest, is not -- all those things. putin must be sitting behind his desk in the kremlin going, it's working, man. the rest of the world gets the message that the united states of america's chief law enforcement agency is not truthful, is not honest, is plotting against him, is a deep state. my god! >> well, you knew this was happening, to a certain extent before the election. >> yes. >> the administr...

Together. what we saw yesterday was nancy pelosi on the floor heroically for eight hours, but taking a position that contradicted the position that chuck schumer had just taken in negotiating a compromise with mitch mcconnell, which is going to be voted on today. >> somebody had to cover and so patience and paution for tssion cause of the dreamers. >> it's not clear at all that she's going to whiff. she said she would vote against the budget deal herself. not clear whether she'll demand that any of them come along. mike, the bottom line is, they're going to i have vote tod -- to have a vote to...

Doesn't tell the truth. and yet the notion that in the end when the grand jury says and the special counsel says, no, we really seriously need to talk to you, that president trump would take the fifth, that is going to -- i think that moment very well could come and that is going to be a fascinating question of whether he can get away with that. >> and this was a shot across the bow. >> politically. >> mike, you've spent so much time covering joe biden. you've heard him on the book tour and in all of these different iterations. but it struck me today that he is, you know, deadly serious about ...

>> i have to say, i was at the last event that joe biden did on behalf of hillary clinton. it was the night before the election. and he spoke at that event. he spoke after tim kaine who he thought hopefully was going to succeed him. and he was much more cautious about what was going to happen the next day. he said no matter what happens, we have to think about what we need to do to bring the country together. i spoke to him a month later, from the los angeles times, and he was very critical about the time of campaign that was run, that there wasn't enough attention paid to people like the ones...

Forceful, spoken out more if you thought she were going to lose. >> it had nothing to do with that. first of all, we didn't have the information that we ultimately had in january. number one. number two, we didn't want to play into putin's hands, doing the thing that he was trying to do. what would have happened if barack obama had come out and said, the fbi has information that the trump team is colluding with the russians to try to tip the election to hillary clinton? it would have been chaos. and we didn't have the data we have now. we didn't have the data we had even in january. and we did...