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Looking at, what are they considering. considering the societal implications, institutional implication, any american who cares about that. i don't know if we'll ever find out. i hate to say that. maybe we will. maybe there is a huge investigation going on. they narrow it on and get it right. maybe justice roberts indicates that way. there is no information yet. carley: justice thomas said it fundamentally changed the makeup of the supreme court. this is stunning explanation. more to come on this hopefully. will: we talked talked about the yesterday, no, find out the leaker. we're an investiga...

This. way before that explosive draft even leaked. one of the things that i've been interested that you have been following is how the clinics in blue states are gearing up to meet the need. tell us about that. >> i mean, we see this playing out all over the country. in connecticut, in california, in illinois. i spent some time at an illinois clinic that is preparing for 14,000 patients from other states if roe isover jover over which is looks likely to be. they are opening call centers, expanding operations in every way that they can think to in order to accommodate the surge which they expec...

Today. mike schmidt is doing reporting on mike pence who is ostensibly hiding behind the sense that the committee is considering a deferral to d.o.j. to say no, no, no, i am not going to talk to them. the thing that stands between mccarthy and pence telling the truth is political ambition. is our justice department, law enforcement, institutional hard wiring suited to get the truth from people like that? >> i -- i would be less than truthful if i said to you that i had a high degree of confidence that d.o.j. is set up in all about getting to this. look, this is virtually an unprecedented chall...

It's going on interesting, but if he breaks that precedent, what's not to say that, you know, some of the more conservatives in his conference don't push him to start getting involved in other primaries, where republicans voted to impeach. >> and potentially, primaries where former president trump has selected multiple candidates to endorse. i want to ask you to expand on something that you alluded to earlier, because you've been doing reporting on what republicans plan to do with the january 6th committee if they win back the majority. what's their calculus? what's their thinking? >> we're so...

Who is doing the beating, right? you just go to kick his ass, right? that is not what we are doing now. the sanctions are not going to do anything. >> cnn's arwa damon is doing reporting near the border, and what are you hearing from the people who are making this desperate journey? >> you are talking about the families torn apart there, jim, and despite the fact that there may be some happy reunions, many families are torn apart, and this is because the men between 18 and 60 are not really being permitted to leave. they are expected to stay behind to fight and help in the effort on that side....