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An average police worker's salary was 68 percent benefits. this isn't a republican or democratic issue. you have andrew cuomo in new york, mayor bloomberg, i can't figure out the guy, i guess it depends on the day, but have been he says we've got -- we've got to cut teachers'' salaries. this isn't a war against the unions. >> it is. >> no, it's not. it's a war against the cycle that favors unions and really ends up hurting the taxpayers. >> it is a direct assault on the heart of the union movement. it's against collective bargaining. when you said people are not in these public employees union...

>> in between those there was about 140 years or so. jon: we're taking a look at the graphic of one of the fault lines that runs right through the center of manhattan, right through midtown and under the southern corner of central park. what would happen if you got, say, a magnitude 5 or 6 earthquake in manhattan? would some of those skyscrapers actually tumble? >> no. i think well design and well-built buildings will not have any damage. it will be negligible. jon: so the newer office towers would generally be okay? >> yeah. but the poorly-constructed buildings -- jon: yeah. we have some buil...

Country even more unsustainable. >> do you notice that he has really run to the center from where he was a year ago? >> it is. it is. absolutely and in his talk and presentation. truly, you can gauge somebody about his actions and that's what we'll keep our eyes on in the future. >> he talked about something that you serve on a subcommittee for, that's education. he didn't bring up labor and pensions which is another one of your subcommittees. when it comes to education, who is against bettering our education for the next generation? no one. why does it have to involve money? is there a way to...

Given him a bit of a boost in the polls and he knows that that is what the public is looking for and believes he can capitalize on that. but, having said that one of the criticisms i'm sure we're going to hear from republicans is, where is -- where are those specifics? what exactly are you talking about? because we need to get down to some real tough chases here and if we don't know exactly the numbers, the dollar figures, in cuts and spending, we can't really get very far. >> jamie: even economists are confused over what needs to happen. in terms of our economy. and on friday, speaker boehner...

Problem with the pet stores in san francisco, but what we're trying to do is, quote, turn off the faucet. so they want to turn off the sale of pets. >> i'm told you can still own these pets in the city, but if you want to buy them, you have to do it outside the city or you can adopt one that's already available? >> right, i think that san francisco is a very liberal city and we pride ourselves in our liberal thought. i think that, however, in this situation, we're being remarkably unimaginative about how we're trying to resolve this issue. >> sally, how much money are we talking? how much does...