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Enthusiastic about this. mike: the progressives pushed for $3.5 trillion, moderate democrats say that's way too much. senator joe manchin floated $1.5 trillion. is there a dollar number that will satisfy both moderates and progressives? >> yeah. we'll get there. but it's important to remember, mike, this is whatever the budget amount is, and right now it's 3.5 trillion. it's over the next ten years. and ill argue much of this investment -- i would argue much of this investment having been involved in transportation and human infrastructure at local and state government, federal government, we ...

I'm confident that the reconciliation bill, excuse me, is going to have big investments in lowering costs for working families specifically through child tax credit and early education. we will have big investments in climate action because we can't leave a planet that's overheat today our kids and we will make investments in health care to ensure that people are putting less out of pocket and that we are expanding access to health insurance for those people who have been left behind frankly by republican governors and state legislators. griff: last question, a few seconds. do you predict the ...

That we pick you biden, months ago, and joe did not listen. that sound familiar to you guys? mentioned mick want them about what his top dollar number it was in july. what this he do all day? he sits in his soft chair and let's susan rice when the country. you think you can turn texas blue? that is the goal. it is going deep red in the short-term. poll came out. texas, it has been expected 30% approval with texas hispanics. only 25% of texas hispanics support what joe biden is doing on the border right now. is such a gift from the gave this guy joe is spitting on. let them stay in mexico and a...

>> so the 3.5 trillion dollar number that we are talking about now in what we have in the infrastructure legislation was actually written by you in the house budget resolution. it was the agreed upon number that was written into the senate budget resolution. the number was agreed upon with the president of the united states. and every one of the democrat voted for the 3.5 trillion-dollar budget resolution. and now i'm hearing that there are democrats who voted for that number which you put in front of them very clearly, they knew what they were voting on, and now they seem to be saying we are ...

Assets are kind of benchmarked to our debt as being the safest of safe, that can set off panic not only through treasury markets but through every other financial market in the world. never a good time to have a financial crisis. probably not right now. >> that all sounds incredibly bad. like an economic catastrophe, as janet yellen says. >> yes. >> look, this almost happened but didn't in 2011, 2013. why is there reason to believe it could happen this time? >> well, republicans held it up in the past, and we got to this sort of brinksmanship period. we didn't hit crisis. the republican has go...