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Jim sciutto, it's extraordinary. we've covered these summits over the years. it's one thing for the president to have disputes with other various world leaders, but the prime minister of canada? >> what's not new in this nato summit is that the president has differences with key u.s. allies. what is different is that they're willing to stand up to him. the macron moment yesterday when macron says, let's be serious. when the president is talking about isis. openly disagreeing with him. that was notable. trudeau as well. listen, they were essentially laughing at the u.s. president there. that's ...

All their money, it still would not pay for medicare for all. >> tucker: yes. >> melissa: so, what difference does it make if we add a lot of illegal aliens? why don't we add canada? they are nice people, why not? >> tucker: that's exactly it, i have always thought the most illegal aliens are probably nice people, they came here becauses they like america and most americans like immigrants, they really like them. if you want to make americans hate immigrants, give free health care to illegals, because they would resent that. why wouldn't it? most americans aren't able to pay for the health car...

And you threw them into an abyss somewhere to die and you took all their money, it still would not pay for medicare for all. what difference does it make if we add a lot of illegal aliens? why don't we add canada? they are nice people, why not? >> tucker: that's exactly it, i have always thought the most illegal aliens are probably nice people, they came here because they like america and most americans like immigrants, they really like them. if you really want to make -- most americans aren't able to pay for the health care they want. you know what i mean? >> it's absolutely true, the reason ...

That does give him a political pool but it is limited because in effect we have seen over the course of more than a year almost no noticeable effect on american consumer prices. arthel: how long can this trade war last before americans start to feel it in their wallet? >> they will feel a little more as tariffs go up because the next round of tariffs will be applied on a broad range of consumer goods. we've got to remember the chinese are depreciating their currency which makes goods cheaper in dollar terms. arthel: they always do that. >> they are doing it now in the chinese currency is in a ...

The only economy growing and the rest of the world. look, the tariffs have hurt them enormously. and as i think you mentioned, you have a bunch of numbers, steps coming out of china last week all of them down. i think the production number was the worst in 17 years. business investment is falling, retail sales are in economic trouble. president trump is using tariffs in order to put more pressure on the chinese economy, i think his strategy is in fact working. what we did, we gave some relief to big american consumer companies for christmas because it already locked in their orders and in doll...