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Segregation of race in this country. and it was not only that, but you also worked with them to oppose busing, and, you know, there was a little girl in california who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day. and that little girl was me. so i will tell you that on this subject, it cannot be an intellectual debate among democrats. we have to take it seriously. we have to act swiftly. as attorney general of california, i was very proud to put in place a requirement that all my special agents would wear body cameras and keep those camera...

Career, i ran because of civil rights. i continue to think we have to make fundamental changes in civil rights. and those civil rights, by the way, include not just only african-americans but the lgbt community. >> but vice president biden, do you agree today -- do you agree today that you were wrong to oppose busing in america then? >> no. >> do you agree? >> i did not oppose busing in america. what i opposed was busing ordered by the department of education. that's what i opposed. >> well, there was a failure of states to integrate public schools in america. i was part of the second class to...

Hurt, deflated, confused. >> well, those are your words. i couldn't disagree with you more. and, look, i understand where we are in this environment and that pundits and politicians like me will look and see what we want to see. but the real test for me and the real people that i talk to are people in the barbershops, people in the churches, people at the little league games, and those people that i heard from tonight and those texts i received from people were overwhelmingly enthusiastic, saying he looks like a statesman. even in the exchange with kamala harris, they said he looked like he wa...

Vice president biden a statesman. he was a statesman in the sense he was supporting states' rights in busing. he was against federal busing and supporting that it should be up to the states. is that something you -- i mean is that something he should still be supporting? >> let me just say this. i'm not sure that that is the entirety of his argument back then. but -- >> he said tonight the federal government should not be involved in busing. >> this is what i do know. this is what i do know, is that the eight years under president obama, that they put out guidance to end the prison to school p...

Will africa his support in the black caucus, the answer is no. people in the cbc, those that support him and those that know him, that's the key. they know him. they know his record. they know his heart. they know what he fights for, and they know for a fact that he had president obama's back for eight years. so, no, do i think that this will affect any of that? i don't. >> cedric richmond, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> no problem. thank you all. >> van, is cedric right, that this will not have an impact? >> you know, i don't know, but it's hard for me to imagine that it won'...