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Kristi noem it's probably the worst governor on this topic, she also made it clear that she wants to run as the president. >> we have a republican governors in this country pretending they didn't shut down their states. that they didn't close their beaches. that they didn't mandate masks. that they didn't issue sheltering places, i'm not picking fights with republican governors, but i'm saying that we need leaders with great. that their first instinct is to make the right decision,. that they don't backtrack and then try to fool you into the fact that they never made the wrong decision. >> yes...

Yes, in it's inventiveness and creativeness, but do i want to be with america, like america with it's inability to control the drug problem? no. or the gun problem? no. these are my choices. i go by what is good governance what are the things i aim to do. healthy society that gives everybody a chance to achieve its maximum. >> lee also had to maintain a careful balancing act between the united states china and other powers to keep his city state independent. i asked him a question about foreign policy that remains pert innocent. what do you want from the next president? >> engagement with the ...