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Sources telling cnn that the saudi government's preparing a report admitting that journalist jamal khashoggi was killed during a botched interrogation inside the saudi consulate in istanbul. let's discuss now, max boot is here, author of "the corrosion of conservatism: why i left the right" and major james spider marks also joins us as well. thank you so much. i appreciate you guys. >> thanks, don. >> general marks, how skeptical are you of this new saudi far ti narrative that cnn is reporting? >> very skeptical. we have a strong relationship with saudi arabia. i think in terms of our long-ter...

Long-term interests, we need to maintain some type of relationship. you don't botch an interrogation. frankly. having done a few interrogations, you control the environment. you control all the elements involved. they aren't botched. unless there's an -- >> how does one come up with that narrative? >> i don't know what that adjective -- >> what does that actually mean? >> a botched interrogation, i'm not sure. i'm not sure. it was obviously a horrible outcome, which is totally avoidable unless that's the outcome you're looking for. >> this new narrative, this new explanation, max, is coming ou...

Election people didn't feel compelled to go out and vote for mitt romney. you talk about obamacare? be prepared to propose good policy to explain to people why your choice is better. >> neil: you're arguing this from a political standpoint. runs have the wind at their back on this sudden questioning of, do we really want big all-giving government? it can do a lot of bad things, too, but also warning, don't botch this now. you have got to convincing arguement to make to the american people why you think smaller is better. how would you follow up? >> i absolutely agree and i think she is right t...