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Judgment about each defendant. here is what i mean. let's say you charge them both and you only charge the son to leverage the father. that is the only reason you charge them. something happens to the father. he gets hit by a bus. he's not there for trial. can you bring that case against the son as a stand alone for the jury against 12? if the answer is no, you don't charge him. sometimes talking about using the son to leverage the father is a little glib. good prosecutors and bob muller is a good investigator. you make might have the effect. >> two other quick points then i think is one is so...

Going on killing other individuals. my question is, why are they looking at him? why not change the rules and allow individuals -- >> they said at the podium they're considering changing rules. >> i don't think they should charge this guy. he's a hero in my opinion, may have stopped other deaths. >> he has six kids and one more on the way. his wife says she stands behind him 100%. >> don't charge him. this is a story from texas. it was a buy-back program, sting operation, under taken by atf, obama administration, where thousands of weapons were sold to people that shoebt have them including ...

Firemen running up into a building they know they may never come out of. >> right. >> businesses that opened up and were feeding firemen for free in new york after 9/11. this young man's out there with his friends and trying to help. >> i commend people like that because there are people doing right things. the looting and rioting, that's not going to make change. if you want to make a change, go to law school, become a police officer, become a part of congress. and i don't want to hear the excuse, well, they're not going to give us a job. i became a lawyer, self-made. so there's no excuse. >>...

Officer, become a part of congress. and i don't want to hear the excuse, well, they're not going to give us a job. i became a lawyer, self-made. so there's no excuse. >> people give me a hard time. i say there's a lesson to be learned in ferguson. don't rob a store, don't intimidate a clerk, don't fight a cop for his gun, don't charge him to quote one of the eyewitnesses like a football player with your head down. i say that to darryl, he gets very mad at me. but isn't that a lesson? >> that's a big lesson. my husband is an african-american police officer. and he said if he was in that positio...

Firemen running up into a building they know they may never come out of. >> right. >> businesses that opened up and were feeding firemen for free in new york after 9/11. this young man's out there with his friends and trying to help. >> i commend people like that because there are people doing right things. the looting and rioting, that's not going to make change. if you want to make a change, go to law school, become a police officer, become a part of congress. and i don't want to hear the excuse, well, they're not going to give us a job. i became a lawyer, self-made. so there's no excuse. >>...