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But prayer. this is the bible that i am going to place my hands on when i am sworn in. >> you know, gloria, poignant moment there and, you know, of all the things he talks about, he has been so consistent about this from the beginning, right? don't defund, as he said refund the -- the -- the police. um, he was on to something in new york city and it appears that he was on to something nationwide, given what we saw for the democratic party last night. >> yeah. i mean, you know, he -- he is somebody who is trying to appeal to all constituencies and not push anyone aside and in a city like new yo...

Police, just backfired big time. you're right, joe biden took a lot of heat from even people like me about the crime bill but not about that portion saying we need proper police in the streets and we particularly need them now as we see crime, gun violence going up in chicago, new york and other places. >> we've talked about this a million times. i want to say it one more time. ask you this question one more time about cops on the street. obviously it is communities of color who are most disproportionately impacted when there aren't cops on the street, representatives have said so, you came on...

Shooting, after shooting, after shooting. i think it's important for people to know the facts and i think it's, also, important that most americans can balance two things in -- in their hand, at the same time. don't defund the police, as most americans say. don't defund the police but the police reform, the police departments and police-legal force -- um forces -- need serious reform and structural changes because they're not, necessarily, doing the -- all the good things they need to do, all of the time. both of those things can happen, at the same time. i disagree about how effective this is...

We're in the situation we're in, in washington, when a majority of the country wants something done on guns. and they have wanted it done on guns for 15 years. and we, still, do nothing on guns, as we have shooting, after shooting, after shooting. i think it's important for people to know the facts. and i think it's, also, important that month americans can balance two things in their -- in their hand, at the same time. don't defund the police, as most americans say. don't defund the police. but the police reform, the police departments, and police-legal force -- forces need serious reform and...

And what i would say is that some of the decisions have just been premature and they've harmed very people they were intended to help and that is the black community. >> you said our babies. so let's talk about the kids of minneapolis for a moment. at least 22 children have been shot in minneapolis so far this year. let's look at 6-year-old anaya allen, she died in may. she was shot eating mcdonald's in the back of her family car and her grandfather called her one of the future leaders of this city. 9-year-old trinity smith killed last plo while playing with a friend on a trampoline. and 10-ye...