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Member of the tea party and mark levine, good to have you both here today. mark, let me start with you. what do you think about -- is joe lieberman right? >> no, i don't think he is. teddy roosevelt said speak softly and carry a big speak and the president has done good with the big stick and more attacks on pakistan in the first year than 8 years of the bush presidency and killing them softly is good, too, even we use the word "islam", we are offending millions of people, it is a perversion of islam... martha: and, that is what an extremist is... >> call them for what they are. call them extr...

Hateful. it's just -- it's a real shame with what's going on out there. i think republicans need to relax. they've got their jobs ahead of them. focus on the 46, 47, 48 seats mccain won where you have democrats in there in the house right now. and that's what you focus on. you don't focus on all the crazy conspiracy stuff. democrats, i think, need to do the same thing. >> no, don't focus on the anger. with us now from washington, we have republican representative from texas and member of the house financial services committee, congressman ron paul is with us. >> and we're going to get to him r...

He's going to be a differential asset. if they can draw the line in places where he's had strength and maintain strength. his base -- he still has a solid base and energized by health care, he can do good for them. not for the guys out beyond the last fort in places very difficult for democrats to hold normal conditions. >> you know, pat buchanan, last night i had a conservative say, why do you keep saying stay calm? everybody's hair's on fire. i say, you do what you can do. you can look at the 48 -- ron just brought it up. if you're a conservative, look at the 48 seats john mccain carried. th...

At least evenly balanced on both sides and i doubt it moved the needle in the way on public opinion in the way the white house had really hoped. it certainly didn't turn out to be a trap for republicans. they came ready to play this time. >> yeah. it was a very smart discussion. no question. i watched all of it. dr. healy, republicans, you've heard this. they want to start from scratch. basically anything short of that is unacceptable. deal breaker. is that a realistic approach? as you know, you're a doctor. a lot of people waiting for this to happen. they've been suffering without health care...

I may have totally misjudged this. my sense is the arguments were at least evenly balanced on both sides and i doubt it moved the needle in the way on public opinion in the way the white house had really hoped. it certainly didn't turn out to be a trap for republicans. they came ready to play this time. >> yeah. it was a very smart discussion. no question. i watched all of it. dr. healy, republicans, you've heard this. they want to start from scratch. basically anything short of that is unacceptable. deal breaker. is that a realistic approach? when you're the minority party? as you know, you'r...