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Terms of making a difference in the battle field, he would have to use a lot of agent, put his own troops at risk. i don't think the conflict is going in that direction. i can't see putin doing that. >> in terms of the response, the white house was careful not to lay down a red line here. and obama did and when al-assad crossed it he didn't do anything about it. should they say to putin, if you use chemical weapons, we are not talking severe consequences, but x, y or z. >> i want the biden administration to push for negotiations, ceasefire, deescalation. too many threats, to many red lines we ...

Of course, we don't wage russia, we honor the agreements, don't honor any agreements with the world. >> let me ask you this then. what kind of security guarantee do you need, if you don't trust russia's word, do you trust nato? do you trust the u.s., the west to give you the security commitment that you need to protect yourselves? >> i think now it's very important what the people of ukraine think and more than 80% of ukrainian people wants to join nato. by the way, the number of people who were ready to join in 2013 before annexation of cry mi cri around 50% so mr. putin, this

Poland and lviv itself. >> reporter: there are hundreds of thousands of displaced ukrainians here in lviv. this is probably the only safe zone to come to, an easy passage to poland and other countries so they keep flooding here and come here through awful conditions. you talked about the humanitarian corridors. they canceled a corridor from mariupol not trusting the russians to honor it because they shelled so many of the corridors coming out of mariupol. by all accounts from the ukrainian military the russians are fully in control of the corridors outside of mariupol and don't honor the peace...

She would have paid attention she would think the men and women of border patrol for serving country every day and the way they do. as far as this warrant, this lady, this commissioner she needs to get with her attorneys and read the law. the law clearly states when you arrest somebody for being in the country illegally it does not require a criminal warrant. as a matter of fact, the way congress enevacuated this law there is no mechanism in place to get a criminal warrant signed by a judge. it doesn't exist we have been doing this for decades no problem. it's just lathely the sanctuary cities...

But why wouldn't you? >> because russia violated human rights abroad? is that what you are saying? >> he is meeting with the president of north korea, spooking of human rights violations. you main gulags where hundreds of thousands of families languish and die. we are meeting with him anyway. why would you want to meet with your opponents? with your adversaries? always used to argue that bringing russia into the g-7 is like immoral for some reason? i'm totally confused. >> used to be the g-8 russia was in it? >> i'm aware until recently. >> until it basically took over territory of another cou...