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Welker, put this question to the white house press secretary any potential that the president had a hand or any knowledge of what has transpired. >> did the president direct anyone in this white house or in his national security team to try to find information or intelligence to back up his assertion about wiretapping? >> i don't -- i'm not aware of anything directly. i'd have to look into that in terms of -- again, there's two sides of this. one is the information side, and two is the policy and the activities and the legal piece of what happened. and i don't -- there's -- those are big bucke...

Like it passes narrowly or loses by a huge margin because once it looks like it's going down everybody is going to vote no, they will do what is easiest for them and this narrow margin here, the president as you were saying the president just wanted to force a vote because he figured that it might just make people say i don't want to vote with nancy pelosi as dana bash was saying earlier. and i don't know whether that's part of their calculation or not. i don't think nancy pelosi even enters into anybody's consideration during this vote. >> for a president whose brand is all about being a winn...

And more. good to see you today, mr. chairman. how do you see the interplay between these two things? you have a schedule and plan for judge gorsuch. this case is proceeding on a different track, not on the merits but on a temporary pause for now. do the two wind up interacting? >> i think it would come up naturally in the hearings that we have for him sometime around the middle of march. it will be an issue there. but obviously if he were going to be approved for the supreme court, i think he will be, he would not be able to comment on it or he would have to recuse himself. so i don't know wh...

A lot more reference to allegations and i don't think allegations cut it at this stage. >> that was a very damaging exchange for the washington state position because, you know, it's important to remember here, this is a very extraordinary remedy that washington received here. this is an executive order of the president of the united states that is ip validated across the entire country on the abayh sis of the say-so of one judge and judge clifton is saying what's your evidence? why should we do this if you don't have any evidence? and mr. purcell is saying we haven't had time, don't have enou...

Not a single refugee has committed a terrorist attack against americans since lef. it's homegrown terrorists who are more likely to sign on if they feel alienated, discriminated against and they will become recruiting prey for isil as a result of this kind of action. >> i disagree with tony. i don't believe isil or isis need any encouragement to rise up against the united states. >> they don't need encouragement. but they need tools and arguments and this is handing them on a silver platter an argument to recruit more people. >> i don't believe that. i don't believe they need any encouragement...