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Should continue with the other investigation as well. what we shouldn't do -- i was asked yesterday about a congressman -- a democratic congressman who's a friend of mine who said he thought people would go to jail. >> yeah joaquin -- >> i said no. i don't think that's right in the middle of a conversation to say something like that. i feel the same way here. if the president has something to say or evidence to present, present it to the american people but don't throw out charges like this and slime people as you sit in the oval office and then not back it up. >> so today steve bannon was rem...

With, he's been downgraded. >> he's embarrasses. he's not invited to the parties the way -- >> in the front row -- i'm sorry to interrupt, but i think it's really important. kushner and his wife were sitting in the front row on the white house lawn today. steve bannon is in an avowed anti-semite. how on earth would kushner and his wife be able to work with a man -- >> avowed anti-semite? >> he's a member of the alt-right. >> he vows this? he's really that bad? >> yes, he really is that bad. >>. >> look, he's a member of the alt-right. i don't think he should have been in the administration to ...

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. >> doing a lot of stories of people in red states that are beneficiaries of the affordable care act, original name of it. some people think positively of the affordable care act and negatively of obamacare when it's the same thing but folks from red states receiving benefits and now taking some of the essential things out, like drug prevention and mental health care, and if that is removed, how do you think some of the people who voted for president are going to react to this? what are they going to do? >> it's betrayal by donald trump to the const...

>> oh, absolutely. i understand, yes -- wolf, you have to think of it this way. we give 20 million healthcare, the most valuable asset that we have in a social government such as social services. with that being said, anything you buy today, you order from a store, it comes with a box, there is instructions. it tells you how to assemble and how to use. we gave 20 million healthcare without one word of instructions. there is so many synergies and inefficientsies. we can make it work. don't throw the baby out with the bath water. >> thank you for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> an important n...

Budgets at home, they have to budget their, balance their family budgets as a businessman for 30 years i had to balance my budgets. we have to make sure we at least get the curve going in that direction. >> do you trust the cbo score snt white house is in some ways trying to discredit it. >> i think the cbo score is a guide we need to look at it. there's some problems with it. it's a very difficult, i heard you earlier saying how complicated health care is. it is very complicated, so we have to look at least the score a baseline for me, that's a starting point. >> your governor republican john...