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>> energy. >> that don't yield too much. i think one of the issues for president trump is he's had one solo press conference. he's had a couple with international leaders. but only one by himself, which is a historically low amount. he hasn't given a big address to the nation, aside from his joint speech to congress. not doing a lot to sort of move people outside of his base. so, i think talking more to those people could prove a benefit to getting the national attention on it. >> you're sort of laughing, mack, but isn't this exactly what you would recommend for the president? >> to a point. i...

Security. fixing entitlements and balancing our budgets, not our issues, but through polling, these are the big issues that the american people want done. so choose one of those issues. >> we should include in that group. one was governor o'malley, running for the democratic president. what do you think it is that stops these guys? what is it that stops these guys? the base that says don't compromise? don't yield, don't talk? what? >> it's because we've gotten out of the habit of governing by goals. remember we used to govern by goals when ronald reagan and tip o'neill used to run things? they...

>> michael grunwald, good to have you with us tonight. thanks ofor being on "the ed show." erskine bowles and allen simpson introduced a new simpson/bowles deficit reduction plan today, even though nobody asked them to do it. the new simpson/bowles is worse than the old one. there is only $600 billion in tax savings less than what they proposed before. now there are cuts to medicare, medicaid and social security benefits. the ratio of cuts to new tax revenue is three-to-one. who voted for that? today bowles and simpson were interrupted by protesters as they tried to pitch their new plan. this ...

Right now our problem is jobs, and there is no question cutting that sort of spending is going to hurt jobs. >> michael grunwald, good to have you with us tonight. thanks for being on "the ed show." erskine bowles and allen simpson introduced a new simpson/bowles deficit reduction plan today, even though nobody asked them to do it. the new simpson/bowles is worse than the old one. there is only $600 billion in tax savings less than what they proposed before. now there are cuts to medicare, medicaid and social security benefits. the ratio of cuts to new tax revenue is three-to-one. who voted fo...