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These insurance companies have with this health care and legislative system. >> we pay more money for health care than anyone where else in the world. we have all of these false mechanisms that are getting in the way of a more free market approach. >> on medicare and medicaid, there's a pretty incredible report about a meeting earlier this week where mitch mcconnell took rob portman to task and said when you were omb director, you were all about fixing entitlements, where are you now? how can you say you can allow medicare to grow? rob portman says this is preposterous, you're just taking medi...

Security. fixing entitlements and balancing our budgets, not our issues, but through polling, these are the big issues that the american people want done. so choose one of those issues. >> we should include in that group. one was governor o'malley, running for the democratic president. what do you think it is that stops these guys? what is it that stops these guys? the base that says don't compromise? don't yield, don't talk? what? >> it's because we've gotten out of the habit of governing by goals. remember we used to govern by goals when ronald reagan and tip o'neill used to run things? they...

>> we're talking about fixing entitlements and roland said fix the knicks? >> joining us now, matt lewis. weighing in on the eric garner case. writing in part there might be a temptation to play up the racial aspect of this case and that would be easy to do. i suspect it wouldn't be the right approach. first, of course, there is really no direct evidence as far as i know to buttress this. second it would probably just push pundits and politicians into their respective corners. lastly while i have no doubt african-americans are abused by police far more often whites should not kid themselves an...

We have and negative cash flow is deficits and revenue not being in balance. we can make the issue centered around the debt limit. that's not the b problem. the issue is we are spend ing more than we take in. that's where we ought to to the attention. fixing entitlements. >> we are 13 days out. the estimate is the 17th we hit the ceiling. while congress is squawking about the battle over the resolution, the clock is ticking on the debt ceiling. why didn't you work earlier on oh it? you should work this weekend on it, i might add. why isn't the debt ceiling -- or is it talked about now? >> you ...

We have and negative cash flow is deficits and revenue not being in balance. we can make the issue centered around the debt limit. that's not the b problem. the issue is we are spend ing more than we take in. that's where we ought to to the attention. fixing entitlements. >> we are 13 days out. the estimate is the 17th we hit the ceiling. while congress is squawking about the battle over the resolution, the clock is ticking on the debt ceiling. why didn't you work earlier on oh it? you should work this weekend on it, i might add. why isn't the debt ceiling -- or is it talked about now? >> you ...