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Impression? >> the same. i think what still isn't known is whether or not we could get on top of this pandemic with a two dose strategy. i mean, what is going to be the change in the ark of this pandemic by giving a third dose to people who are already vaccinated as compared to giving two doses to people unvaccinated. it is unclear to me whether or not we could have gotten the two dose strategy. the biggest mistake we make is labeling asymptomatic with wildly symptomatic and breakthrough infections. despite being fully vaccinated, you are hospitalized or worse. i think we created an expectatio...

As one of the premier regulatory agents not just to the united states but the world, signals to the world, pfizer first, likely followed by moderna, is incredibly safe and effective. >> folks that got moderna or j&j, how quickly are those to follow? >> pfizer did file, started the application process for full approval in the june time frame. we saw moderna filing soon thereafter. remember, moderna indicated for 18 and above. pfizer for 16 and above. we expect next several weeks to see moderna receiving its full approval. to your point on j&j, the question remains, they're looking at the data f...

We have to put things in context, and a lot of people are criticizing the use of the two dose strategy and help the kids and maybe the vaccine for kids should start with those because they are at risk of serious complications. >> i was about to ask you that question. and those who have a natural immunity now conferred by having a previous infection, where do you think we are in terms of covert immunity as a nation? >> 80-85% of adults in the united states today have immunity. and as you said, 62% of those over 18 have a vaccinated