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Ant double jeopardy issue. because sometimes when the state brings charges and they directly relate to a federal crime, they can be double jeopardied out and prevented from bringing the charges. i think there will be litigation about that, on behalf of manafort and his lawyers. i think they will raise those issues. but i think that's why you see sort of the falsifying business records. they're trying make this a little bit different, as much as they can, from what he already faced, to sort of avoid the double jeopardy problem. more practically, paul manafort's life is about to get a little bit...

Agreement. >> and it could be potentially huge. >> my understanding of state law is there is a double jeopardy issue. but why he's prosecuted is an important one. prosecutions are not supposed to be brought just because somebody is, quote, unquote, a big fish. if there is who is prominent. that's not really a reason to bring a case. what i am curious about is why, whoever is providing this information to reporters, that a potential grand jury might indict paul manafort in the future in new york state, why is that information becoming public? grand jury proceedings should be kept secret. if new...

>> they are different things. i think in this case, i think both would be appropriate. if for some reason she can't testify in a public setting because there is classified information at stake, congress has the procedures to take her testify in closed setting. it would be salutary for her to talk to congress and mueller, to put the e-mail, which is eye catche catching, into proper context. >> many people are talking about the pardons the president can give out to people who are indicted or who pled guilty. ultimately, there is a lot of study that has gone into the way mueller is doing this, in...

The guilty verdict so i don't think there is a double jeopardy issue. and so then the issue is whether or not the united states is going to extradite her. even if we don't there is an issue of hir travelling to other countries because of interpool. so i think there is legal problems ahead of her and i don't think there was a final judgment on the merits. she is in danger of being sent over there in my opinion. >> what would it take for amanda's attorneys to convince the united states judicial system to not extradite her. and why trouble travelling internationally? >> i was going to say, john i...