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been proven at times to be a lie, proven at times to be consistently false, he's consistently able to make that and get republicans, his rivals to rally around that this is the top of the hour, 2:00 in new york city, and we are going to take a pause, just for all of us to take a breath and remind you of what's happening here donald trump is now inside of the courthouse in lower manhattan. we expecting him to walk down that hallway, where you see that heavy security presence. he is going to go into a courtroom for an arraignment we're told it's likely to be around 30 charges. we do ...

Justices were concerned that jack phillips didn't get a fair hearing from a state commission that ruled against him. so today the supreme court sent this oregon case back with instructions to reconsider, in light of the colorado case, but none of the infirmities that existed in the colorado case are present in the oregon case. so i'm not exactly sure what the oregon courts are going to conclude from this. my guess is that if the state sues again, and it probably will, the oregon courts will rule the same way and then the case will come back here. and i don't know what the supreme court gains h...

Residential mortgage fraud among them, one of the most serious. he's looking at one to three years minimum. eight to 25 years maximum. these are huge ranges. those would be inescapable. there's nothing the president can do to pardon on a state charge? >> that's exactly right. that's one perhaps motivation for the district attorney in bringing these charges is really as a backstop in case of a pardon on the federal charges. so they will involve some of the same conduct, and my guess is the defense will certainly raise arguments about double jeopardy. it is pretty easy to overcome that. even in ...

Trump. it also highlights the real importance of states. the d.a. our eyes have been so focused on mueller. but having this fire wall in the states -- >> fire wall in the sense that is not something that can be pardoned by the president, is that what you're referring to? >> that's right. there are double jeopardy rules in new york that limit to some degree the kind of state charges that can be brought but they're not absolute. they don't apply to tax crimes. we know barbara underwood in recent days was seeking -- the attorney general in new york was seeking a referral from the department of ta...